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Max Devious
EPSYLON FORCE NZAU Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.23 18:28:00 -
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So now I've read all the comments in this thread, and in the final analysis this is what we know:
1. These POCOs are not financially viable as income-generating profit points in and of themselves because of the high costs associated with obtaining them and the likelihood of their destruction. Tax revenues generated always < cost of ownership.
2. This being the case, the only reason to purchase and deploy one is to have rights to the PI on the planet.
It is thus only a method to extend sovereignty battles into LowSec and WH space. Some simple wildcat production can still be done with launchers, but all multi-stage production will now be controlled by the large Alliances. There is no economic reason for tax rates to be anything other than 0% or 100% unless you are sharing resources with other corps and want to take a piece of the action for providing security. WH crews will be hurt more at first due to the logistical challenges inherent in WH life, and later maybe not so much because WH mechanics give us a better chance of defending. This may ironically have the effect of moving more PI industrialists into WH crews so they can protect their investments. It will certainly not make anyone more likely to move into LowSec, and it will become more a wasteland than it is even now.
Only question I still have not seen answered is how my standings are going to be affected by killing one of these LowSec structures, and will I be on an aggression timer afterwards.
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Max Devious
EPSYLON FORCE NZAU Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:04:00 -
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El 1974 wrote:Ingvar Angst wrote:Which means, basically, that these POCOs are a complete waste of isk for wormhole dwellers. We'll effectively get no benefits aside from being able to set the taxes to zero, and that won't be enough to recoup the cost of these things for months or longer. Hell, we'll need ten of these damned things in our hole.
What a load of crap the current concept is... Just put up the COs, invite some highsec industrials to do all the PI stuff for you, sit back and receive a piece of the action, while doing nothing. Stop whining.
You don't understand this. WH crews use the products produced in PI to run our POSs. Almost none of this stuff ever leaves the WH.
For a WH crew, there's only 2 reasons we ever see an industrial vessel that is not ours; either they are using one of our exits to get to Kspace or they are bringing in a POS to set up and try to evict us. Both of these ships are in a very dangerous situation.
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Max Devious
EPSYLON FORCE NZAU Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:02:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Ingvar Angst wrote:Because, qutie simply enough, deliberately opening holes into empire is nothing more an open invitation to having your hole invaded. Granted, it's probably possible someone actually does that... we tend to consider them future targets however and not someone we'd consider smart enough to occupy wormholes for any significant period of time. So you're making a smart choice (IMO) regarding peasants who dare to intrude in your system and as a consequence the new customs offices aren't giving you a benefit. Working as intended?
If their intention is to give us a huge pain in the behind with absolutely no benefit and possibly driving some of us out of Wspace temporarily then it is working perfectly.
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